Tom Dent continues his interview with professional photographer, videographer, and publisher Cecil Williams in Orangeburg, South Carolina. Williams continues to talk about his involvement in the civil rights movement, photography, and the NAACP. His father was a self-employed tailor and had more freedom than his mother, who was employed by the state as a school teacher. He describes Reverend I. DeQuincey Newman's work as field director for the NAACP. Williams' photography documenting Newman's work for the New York NAACP office ended up in Crisis, Jet and other publications. Williams also took photographs for The Times and Democrat, a White newspaper. He also talks about John McCrae, who founded the Black newspaper The Lighthouse and Informer. Williams recalls incidents he covered for the paper in which a Black youth was killed by a police officer and how the NAACP and Reverend Newman became involved. He documented discrimination in photographs. He talks about teaching himself photographing and learning from books. There were not many other Black photographers. Newman became a senator and has since died. He discusses more about Newman's life, including an arrest with Martin Luther King, Jr in Charleston, South Carolina. He documented voter registration and the integration of Clemson University with Harvey Gantt. He documented the press conference at the Roosevelt Hotel, where John F. Kennedy announced that he was running for president. He had no press pass, but Kennedy let him stay. He later invited Williams to the White House. Many of Williams' photographs have been lost to Jet magazine. He talks about his contacts there and who he worked with. He was at the Charleston Hospital Workers' strike. He describes the sit-ins in Orangeburg, in which he participated. There were a small number of Whites who wanted to make change, including teachers at Claflin College and South Carolina State College. They often had to live in the Black communities, forced out of housing in White neighborhoods. The newspaper would sometimes Black out coverage of civil rights demonstrations. Williams was arrested while attempting to take a photograph of the firemen who were called in to spray the demonstrating crowd. He called the Associated Press from jail, which sent a reporter down and broke the Blackout, making the story national news. The White reporters from Columbia were sympathetic to the cause. Dent compares Orangeburg to Greensboro.