Side 1 and 2: Interview with James Payne on 1983-07-11. Abstract for Payne: [00:00-30:34] James Payne speaks about Gilbert Porterfield's influence on the Four Great wonders with the inclusion of bylaws for members of the group. He remembers that the bylaws required each member to be in good standing with the church and that members could be dismissed from the group if they flirted with other women or were unfaithful – 7:55. He says that Porterfield created the bylaws because he wanted them to "live what they were singing" – 10:22. Payne recalls the quartets that inspired him to sing, including the Duncan Brothers, Dixie Hummingbirds, Alphabetical Four, and Tuskegee Singers. He points out that the Tuskegee Singers used the "college style" of quartet singing, which relied on written music, while the Four Great Wonders sang by ear – 15:45. Payne discusses how Porterfield charged 50 cents per person per rehearsal for training so that the group had an incentive to learn – 24:54. Payne remembers hearing the Golden Gate Quartet for the first time and Porterfield's admiration of them. [00:00-24:55] The interview with James Payne continues on LA078Abbott_Side 2; Payne speaks about starting his own record label in the late 1960s and the records he produced for the Western Harmonizers and the Los Angeles Travelers – 3:50. He mentions the group he was training, The Redeemed Souls, but says that he would like to train a traditional quartet because the singing is "more true" – 12:00.